Mary Seddon

Monde Marie and  Mary Seddon

1958-1970

 

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Jane Burke

Niece of Mary Seddon

P.O. Box 378

Hawera 4640

 

Phone: 06 278 7575

New Zealand

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See the collage of folkies of the 60's 

Presented by Bruce King

 

Fond memories of Monde Marie Coffee House

and Mary Seddon

 

page up-dated 10/3/1020

 

Kate Harcourt:

 

I'll try to recapture some of the past but first a couple of names  for you to contact.  Fergus Dick took over from me after my day shift.  Then- most important was Robert Beasley.  He provided the best food.  He had a cafe opposite Parliament  and a dining club in Thorndon. I think the food came from his cafe and was transported in Mary's van. (not madly hygienic). I remember one dreadful day when the lunch hadn't turned up. One of Mary's creditors was in the cafe waiting for his lunch and he volunteered to go and get the food!  Robert's son married the actress, Katy Platt.  I haven't heard of them for years but I think they went to Auckland and I have a feeling that Robert went to Hawkes Bay.  He had been trained properly at the City and Guild in London and became very friendly with Graham Kerr. In fact I think he taught Graham a lot.  He was a very shy man who didn't open up to too many people.  He and Mary were very close but they had monumental rows.  One night they were scrubbing the Monde Marie floor and getting closer and closer till- and my memory may have failed me here- but I think they doused each other with the water from their buckets.! 

 

Sue Skerman painted the murals. I have a photo of Peter (my husband) sitting in front of one of the murals. I'll send you a copy.  Peter and I conducted our romance in the cafe.  I'd be rolling the butter balls and he would be writing his scripts.  He did get a fair amount of free coffee.  I came back from 7 years away in Australia and then in London to teach at my old school, Woodford House. That was in 1957- I think- then I taught at Marsden for a couple of terms in 1958 but Mary wooed me away from there and I must have spent a year running Monde Marie in the day time.  Mary, in her time, had taught at Marsden and I think she was an inspired teacher. Wonderfully educated, broad minded and gloriously eccentric.

 

Her next door neighbour in Roxburgh Street was a dressmaker who thoroughly disapproved of everything that went on in the Monde Marie.   I have a feeling that things were sometimes thrown over the fence at her. 

 

When Mary had evenings for the visiting ballet, for instance, and filled her bain maries with alcoholic beverages  Miss whatever her name was called the police. But Mary was always able to wriggle out of any trouble though she was taken to court at one stage.  I can't remember quite how it happened but she had a very able and prominent barrister to defend her. Peter went along to observe and was horrified to hear Mrs Seddon announce in a loud whisper during the evidence  'RUM' but I don't think the judge heard her. Being at the Monde Marie it was frightfully hard work but an equal amount of fun.  I used to take my English papers for the customers to read. It was a bit like a rather exclusive club. 

 

One of your correspondents said it wasn't very busy during the day time. Well- he didn' t work there!  The counter was rather too high and I got a very sore shoulder from lifting the cona coffee pots, which, has been rightly said, provided coffee of a much higher standard than was usually available at the time. I hope this has been of some interest.  Yours- Kate Harcourt

 

Dinah Priestley:

 

I worked for Mary, serving food and clearing tables at the Monde Marie in 1957 and 58 while I was finishing varsity.  Elizabeth Rimmer and I used to serve out the Chile Con Carne and Apple Strudell which were considered very exotic fare in those days.

And "special coffees" laced with rum were served under the counter.

 

Then we scrubbed down the tables and washed the pottery ramekins and Mary would take us rattling home at 1 a.m. in the back of her car along with the empty tureens of Chile Con Carne.  So she must have been rather protective of "her girls".

 

A lot of Europeans, Austrians, French, Dutch, and  Germans would come to the Monde after the theatre or the pictures. Often the tiny , dimly lit cafe was stuffed with people. To fit in with the exotic decor of candles in bottles and foreign food, I learned to sing several wispy little French songs, ever hoping that people would mistake me for a little French person. Pretention personified!

 

I met Vernon Wright at the Monde Marie and became mesmerized by his guitarists thumb.  He played songs like Scotch and Soda, Mud in Your Eye, Mule Train and The All American Boy. Mary would often suggest a song or a melody she thought would suit a particular singer. Wally Wally was one of her favourites. She had a good singing voice and a rather regal carriage. Often dressed in black with a red rose in her blond locks.  She was self assured in all circumstances, knew when to call the police and when to handle scuffles herself. I remember the frizonne of silence when she tipped half a cup of coffee over the head of an obnoxious punter.

 

When Vernon and I started singing regularly together at the Monde, Mary was encouraging. She introduced us to people like Theodor Bikel. Whenever celebrities arrived in town, Mary would corner them and insist they come and sing at the Monde Marie.

 

Peter Cape  often called in late at night to try out new songs he had written. A small dark Italian with a medallion glittering on his bare chest used to warble "He Contare" with operatic fervour. There was a young fellow called Paddy who knew a great many  lovely , Scottish folksongs. He taught me The October Winds which he said would suit my voice. We met Jim Delahunty and Rona Bailey who taught us New Zealand songs, Waitakauri, Bright fine Gold  and the Palmer River. We teamed up with Jim Delahunty, Mere ? Terry Bryant, and Rae Russell to make a record. Jim called us The Checkers. And then Vernon and I took off to travel overland to England in an old ex army radio van, hoping to  earn a little money en route by singing and playing our guitars. It was Mary that gave us the confidence to do that. Mary knew a lot about music and folk song. She knew a lot about most things. But above all she was a most talented and articulate woman.

 

Michael Woolf:  mail@michaelw.co.nz

 

I must confess that I am indeed brother to Jon Woolf but please don't hold that against me.  He was the one with the tea-chest bass.

Rather rushed for time just now but I can offer one outstanding memory. Sitting at a table with the world's greatest banjo player Freddy Morgan, for many years lead banjo and comedian with the immortal Spike Jones, and who had just played a solo act at the Town Hall.  He had his banjo and was playing as you've never heard before or since.  I thought the instrument would catch fire - but from the playing, not the stub of cigar in his mouth.

And Mary Seddon was rushing around collecting a half-crown from everyone as a cover charge she had just invented.

 

Chris Prowse:  E-mail: csprowse@actrix.co.nz

 

I would be most interested in attending the reunion. I used to go to the Monde a lot when I was in my last year a school and first year at Uni. I'm still in contact will a few musicians of that time and have sent the link to them.

 

I still regularly play music and would be happy to perform at the re union, if needed. There will be no doubt be many at the reunion who played at the Monde a lot more than I did. I think only I played at the Monde once -  or perhaps twice. I must admit that most of my playing at that time was across the road at dare I say it  - the Chez Paree . You probably remember the Chez. That was where the Bob Dylan and the Simon and Garfunkel impersonators hung out. The Monde was a lot more pure folk. But nevertheless the music at the Monde was a huge influence on me and introduced me to the whole wide world of folk and blues, which I still listen too and perform. I look forward to hearing more about the reunion.

 

Fiona Blair (Harrison)

 

Just to say that I would love to attend the celebration for Mary, and Monde Marie.  Mary (Miss Seddon) taught me at Marsden in the 50s and with her as a form mistress ( terminology used in the nicest possible way) I did better at school and was more stimulated than I had ever been. One thing  she taught me  has carried me through the remainder of my life. There are many uncertainties in the life we are given, but one thing stands without question.  The reason the dinosaurs died out? Constipation!   
 

Bob Waters: zl2txe@xtra.co.nz

 

I am interested in attending the Reunion later in June '10

Although I would have to talk among old friends to work out when I first visited Monde Marie, it was probably on 1959 or shortly after opening.   Bruce King was at College and rode a motor scooter and probably had a duffel coat hidden away somewhere.  I played Ukulele as accompaniment during '61, '62 and Banjo on occasions.  I had 3 friends who often came also with mandolin and guitars as we had our own band.
Terry Bryant did his thing on several occasions and many others.

I was there the night Peter Paul and Mary dropped in and sang a few very popular numbers.  The whole place was in awe.

Mary was a great host but a force to be acknowledged.  On two occasions I remember Many closing up early Sunday morning and asked around those she knew well "Who is coming for a dip"

The routine was a cooling swim at the point passed Oriental Bay.  It was dark and attire optional - all in good fun and high spirits.

I had a few years out of teaching earning better money and as a timber contractor at the Booths timber yard in Constable Street ( Kauri Timer and later Flechers)
 

One fine Saturday morning a customer appeared wanting some 12 by 2 Jarrah (Aust Hardwood) planks to keep up a bank.  It was Mary and when she spotted me immediately her mission became more focussed.
She asked for design advice, posts planks of length described in strides made on the ground.   Then it was all too dear so we negotiated quantities and lengths again and got the purchase finalised. When that was done Mary announced that it was to be taken up to Wadestown  before lunch ( then! ).
 

The boss said it couldn't be done so Mary walked outside to the truck that had just come in and asked the driver what he was doing.   His reply that he was knocking off did not deter Mary who immediately asked if he would help a lady who is in trouble.  The Male in the driver could not get out a "No" so Mary marched into the office and told the boss that the driver  would help her out so all was organised without a problem.   She wasn't going to pay all that money and leave the wood there. After much to and fro discussion the driver loaded the loot and Mary demanded I come along too to help with the unloading.

The pattern of coercion continued with the heavy hardwood planks and post being carried up the long path past the precious trees ( one was smuggled out of Nepal) ad all put into place beside the bank. Mary had meantime got out a  spade and shovel and started digging, then asked where the holes should be for the posts between our trips up with the every heavy wet hardwood planks.  I could see what was coming so the driver and I  dropped the last post and announced that we were very late and had to get back. ( I had contract work waiting)

Mary became quite calm and understanding taking us off guard and suggested that we just dig a little bit more while she went and got us something. It was a glass of beer each and the remainder of the bottle.  Her Dad Tom disappeared and I picked up he may have felt a bit awkward. Not so Mary  who made us lunch and got the post holes dug all ready for the gardener to finish off building the wooden retaining wall.  The scrambled eggs were very different to what had come across before as only a for was used to scramble them in the large old kitchen.  I was called in from the digging to "help".

It was unbelievable but that was Mary, all in good spirit and fellowship. I had a good laugh when the driver retold the tale for many months about " My mate Mary the coffee lady."

The next time Mary came into the timber yard the driver hid. A force to be reckoned with but often with little effect in changing the determined path set in her mind.  She had the wiles of wisdom about people and those tools brought many ideas to fruition against many odds.

We remained great good friend and shared a chuckle about the garden project many times. I missed Mary's send off sadly but look forward to another chance to see the faces from those times, and remember that wonderful Lady. I can probably arrange for a past band member of the era to join with me for a Ukulele mandolin duet/ medley. I look  forward to any further news.

 

The singer mentioned in two blogs ( one being Bruce King's was a friend of mine. Ronnie Tofts was the eldest of a family of 15. He was fairly short, had black hair combed back and a fine Tenor voice.  Ronnie sang around several spots in Wellington but was a welcome entertainer on the Island Bay foreshore where he sang to the Italian community gathered at the foreshore on some Saturday and Sunday evenings. Ronnie had a collection of fine  of Italian classics among his extensive repertoire.   He was affectionately known as Ronaldo. Ronnie Brother Ray still lives in Island Bay.

 

Jean-Claude Rochecouste: j-corsaire@hotmail.com

 

I was one of Mary's regular singers , as you already know. My brother Francois put me on your to your website , so here I am!!!! Wanting all the information you can send me , as I will do my best to be there and to perform also;  I virtually lived at the MONDE , was there just about every night.


I Went out with Lynn Howie a few time , loved it when she sang MOSCOW NIGHT & CORINNA, CORINNA .
I also remember  Val Murphy , Rod MacKinnon , Max Winnie and a lot of the others. I would like it if you could put me down on the list of singers that will be there and perform.


I reside in Australia in WA. to be precise. My address is 11 TUDOR COURT PARMELIA WA 6167   Phone No. +61-9-439 4954  Mobile  +61-417 439 495 You may pass my address & phone number to anybody from the MONDE who would like to contact me. I'll say Cheers for now . hope to hear from you very soon.

 

Mike Burch:  m.burch@ihug.co.nz

 

Mary's World it indeed was!  I used to sing there regularly in the mid 1960s - solo on Tuesday nights from ten till midnight, and with Arthur Toms (vocals, guitars, banjo) and Bill Cater (double bass) on the Saturday night slot. Both of them were very fine musicians. Arthur was an excellent instrumentalist, and Bill could happily pluck in almost any key - though when he got too grumpy Arthur and I would shut him up by modulating to C sharp, a key with seven sharps which is dead easy on a guitar with a capo, but bloody difficult on a bass. Bill had to concentrate!
 

My voice was classically trained, which meant that most afficionados thought I sounded too posh to be a real folk singer. Indeed, I subsequently abandoned folk music and became a classical tenor. I remember Mary most fondly - she was a great character, a generous spirit, and a pioneer in many ways.
Nice to come across the website. Good luck with the reunion.

 

Alexandra Skaff: (nee Alex Tosswill)  alexandraskaff@gmail.com

 

I used to sing at the Monde Marie from time to time when I was a teenager attending New Plymouth Girls High (a Scotlands boarder)...and absolutely hero worshipped Mary ..what a character!!!! I was then Alex Tosswill...and yes I do have stories which I remember well. But Mary Seddon was also well known in her own right to my Mother (Lola Benge) and my Uncle Michael Benge (I believe he and Mary attended University together) - and both of whom were friends also with Harry Seresin. They were GGRRRRRRREAT days!!!! And to think how wicked we all were with our mug of coffee with a dollop of thick cream (real cream) and a snort of rum to keep us warm those wintry evenings!!

Josh White came to the Monde Marie, as did Judy Collins. Then we had the Russian Corps de Ballet one night.

 

I personally recall -- Dave Whaley, Jon Woolf, Dave Jordan, Dave Hollis, Steve Robinson

 

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